Renaissance Drama — Topics · seed 42

Campaspe (Alexander, Campaspe, and Diogenes) · chunk 7 of 25

Lyly, John · published 1584 · first performed or written c.1583 (Annals)
comedy · Children of the Chapel (first) (Oxford's Boys) · before the Court
unassigned nearest T35 Fools, wit and railing · 523 words

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Marked words are the most distinguishing words of the nearest topic T35: fool, wit, aristippus, achilles, wise, fools, patroclus, thersites, master, men.

Hephestion, methinks they have answered all well, and in such questions I mean often to try them. It is better to have in your court a wise man, then in your ground a golden mine. Therefore would I lean war, to study wisdom, were I Alexander. So would I, were I Hephestion. But come let us go and give release, as I promised to our Theban thralls. Thou art fortunate Aristotle, that Alexander is thy scholar. And all you happy that he is your sovereign. I could like the man well, if he could be contented to be but a man. He seeketh to draw near to the Gods in knowledge, not to be a God. Let us question a little with Diogenes, why he went not with us to Alexander, Diogenes, thou didst forget thy duty, that thou went'st not with us to the king. And you your profession, that you went to the king. Thou takest as great pride to be peevish, as others do glory to be virtuous. And thou as great honour being a Philosopher to be thought courtlike, as others shame that be courtiers, to be accounted Philosophers. These austere manners set aside, it is well known that thou didst counterfeit money. And thou thy manners, in that thou didst not counterfeit money. Thou hast reason to contemn the court, being both in body and mind too crooked for a courtier. As good be crooked, and endeavour to make myself straight from the court, as to be straight, and learn to be crooked at the court. Thou thinkest it a grace to be opposite against Alexander. And thou to be jump with Alexander. Let us go: for in contemning him, we shall better please him, then in wondering at him. Plato, what dost thou think of Diogenes? To be Socrates' furious, let us go. Behold Manes where thy master is, seeking either for bones for his dinner, or pins for his sleeves. I will go salute him. Do so, but mum not a word that you saw Manes. Then stay thou behind, and I will go with Psyllus. All hail Diogenes to your proper person. All hate to thy peevish conditions. O Dog. What dost thou seek for here? For a man and a beast. That is easy without thy light to be found, be not all these men? Called men. What beast is it thou lookest for? The beast my man Manes. He is a beast in deed that will serve thee. So is he that begat thee. What wouldest thou do, if thou shouldest find Manes? Give him leave to do as he hath done before. What's that? To run away. Why, hast thou no need of Manes? It were a shame for Diogenes to have need of Manes, and for Manes to have no need of Diogenes. But put the case he were gone, wouldst thou entertain any of us two? Upon condition. What? That you should tell me wherefore any of you both were good. Why, I am a scholar, and well seen in Philosophy. And I a prentice, and well seen in painting.
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Metadata, position in the edition, topic in the other seeds
PlayCampaspe (Alexander, Campaspe, and Diogenes)
AuthorLyly, John
Publication year (edition)1584
First performance / composition (Annals)c.1583
First performance (BritDrama)1583
Company (BritDrama)Children of the Chapel (first) (Oxford's Boys)
Theaterbefore the Court;
Genre (British Drama)comedy
Play typeBoys Professional;Professional
Edition / TCP / DEEPedition 140 · TCP A06583 · DEEP 115
Edition roleRepresentative edition — used in the analysis
Positionnodes 97–142 (positions in the processed text, not lines of the printed book) · chunk 7 of 25 in this edition
Length523 words · 685 tokens
Topic (seed 42)unassigned by HDBSCAN · nearest topic T35 — Fools, wit and railing at 0.769
Other seedsseed 43: unassigned · seed 44: unassigned — topic numbers are assigned independently in each run; equal or different numbers say nothing by themselves
Original spelling (EEBO-TCP, unregularized)
Hephestion, me thinkes they haue answered all well, and in such questions I meane often to trye them. It is better to haue in your court a wise manne, then in your ground a golden mine. Therefore would I leane war, to studie wisdome, were I Alexander. So would I, were I Hephestion. But come let vs go and giue release, as I promised to our Theba thralles. Thou art fortunate Aristotle, that Alexander is thy scholler. And all you happy that he is your souereigne. I could like the man well, if he could be contē ted to be but a man. He seeketh to draw neere to the Gods in knowledge, not to be a God. Let vs questiō a litle with Diogines, why he went not with vs to Alexander, Diogenes, thou didst forget thy duetie, that thou wentst not with vs to the king. And you your profession, that you went to the king. Thou takest as great pride to be peeuish, as others do glory to be vertuous. And thou as great honor being a Philosopher to be thought courtlike, as others shame that be courtiers, to be accounted Philosophers. These austere maners set aside, it is wel known that thou didst counterfeit money. And thou thy manners, in that thou didst not counterfeit money. Thou hast reason to contemn the court, being both in bodye and minde too crooked for a courtier. As good bee crooked, and endeuour to make my selfe straight from the court, as to bee straighte, and learne to be crooked at the court. Thou thinkest it a grace to be opposite against Alexander. And thou to be iumpe with Alexander. Let vs goe: for in cotemning him, we shal better please him, then in wondring at him. Plato, what doest thou thinke of Diogenes? To be Socrates furious, let vs goe. Behold Manes where thy maister is, seeking either for bones for his dinner, or pinnes for his sleeues. I will goe salute him. Doe so, butmum not a word that you sawe Manes. Then staye thou behinde, and I will goe with Psyllus. All hayle Diogenes to your proper person. All hate to thy peeuish conditions. O Dogge. What dost thou seeke for here? For a man and a beast. That is easie without thy light to be founde, be not all these men? Called men. What beast is it thou lookest for? The beast my man Manes. He is a beast in deede that wil serue thee. So is he that begat thee. What wouldest thou do, if thou shuldest finde Manes? Giue him leaue to doe as hee hath done beefore. Whats that? To runne away. Why, hast thou no neede of Manes? It were a shame for Diogenes to haue neede of Manes, and for Manes to haue no neede of Diogenes. But put the case he were gone, wouldst thou entertaine any of vs two? Vppon condition. What? That you should tell mee wherefore anye of you both were good. Why, I am a scholler, and well seene in Philosophy. And I a prentice, and well seene in paynting.