Renaissance Drama — Topics · seed 42

Technogamia, or The Marriages of the Arts · chunk 12 of 64

Holyday, Barten · published 1618 · first performed or written 1618 [Feb 13] (Annals)
comedy · at University
unassigned nearest T35 Fools, wit and railing · 533 words

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Marked words are the most distinguishing words of the nearest topic T35: fool, wit, aristippus, achilles, wise, fools, patroclus, thersites, master, men.

Well, you may (if you will) let your own young head guide you; fare you well, fare you well Shrews; I'll pray, that you may have good Housekeepers to your Husbands. And I, that you may have good Citizens. And I, that you may have Honest men: farewell Shrews. Fare you well; you have had a time to love and woo, and so must we have. These old folks think their Old Age must carry it away, as if they had won as clear a Victory from us, as can be; alas! I'll give them leave to use their Dead Precepts, but if they once come to lively Examples, I'll undertake myself to convince their best Experience. Poeta's love indeed of late is much alienated from me, but as long I love him, I'll speak in his defence; did you see how Polites did only speak an Accusation against him? and Ethicus Abuse his froward Age; and Oeconoma Chafe out her weak conjecture? and then, (when they had rather showed the Weakness of their Age; then the Strength of their Reason,) flung away, as if their Objections could not be Answered, because they would not Hear an Answer. I would inquire of Polites (if my Ancestors have not misinformed me in Antiquity) whether in the Time of Herodotus, and after that, of Zenophon (and since of many others) there has not been a like conjunction to Poeta's and Historia's; and whether your chiefest Common-wealths-men, either of Former times as Plato; or of Later, as the great Solon of the Utopian Commonwealth, have not made a Poetical invention their chiefest glory? but there is no discoursing with Age; especially, when it is possessed with a perverse prejudice. And did you mark with what a Strength of Heat, his Cold Feebleness set upon me? and I was Mistress Tongue; and I was Nimble-tongued, and I had four tongues. But if the Eye of Age be not so Dim, but that it may Reflect upon itself: if the Ear of Age be not so Perverse, but that it may Admit a free Attention; if the Reason of Age, will but yield to Reason; then shall his Eye, his Ear, his Reason, bring in their several informations against his Age. If we should inquire with whom does reside the most refined Expolition of Language; would it be answered with Old-folks? if we should inquire with whom does abide the most nimble vigour of purest Apprehension; would it be answered with old-folks? if we should inquire who are most tried for Quick Dispatch of weighty Affairs, would it be answered your old-folks? whose Age brings Care, Care Weakness, Weakness frowardness, Frowardness Distraction, Distraction Childishness: and thus running Round in the Circle of Time, growing Giddy, they fall down upon all four again, like Children: Children I may call them for their Impotency, not innocency: for their Perverseness, not Hopefulness; for their Impatience, not Tenderness; for then would they afford a more Tender censure, of our more Tender loves: but let's be gone, and though they Chide, yet will we Love; and I will sooner confess my Tongue to want Eloquence, than my Love of Logicus to want Reason.
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PlayTechnogamia, or The Marriages of the Arts
AuthorHolyday, Barten
Publication year (edition)1618
First performance / composition (Annals)1618 [Feb 13]
First performance (BritDrama)1618 [Feb]
Theaterat University;
Genre (British Drama)comedy
Play typeUniversity/Inns of Court;Nonprofessional
Edition / TCP / DEEPedition 794 · TCP A03496 · DEEP 653
Edition roleRepresentative edition — used in the analysis
Positionnodes 247–251 (positions in the processed text, not lines of the printed book) · chunk 12 of 64 in this edition
Length533 words · 741 tokens
Topic (seed 42)unassigned by HDBSCAN · nearest topic T35 — Fools, wit and railing at 0.696
Other seedsseed 43: unassigned · seed 44: unassigned — topic numbers are assigned independently in each run; equal or different numbers say nothing by themselves
Original spelling (EEBO-TCP, unregularized)
Well, you may (if you will) let your owne yong head guide you; fare you well, fare you well Shrewes; Ile pray, that you may haue good Houſe-keepers to your Huſbands. And I, that you may haue good Citizens. And I, that you may haue Honeſt men: farewell Shrewes. Fare you well; you haue had a time to loue and woo, and ſo muſt we haue. Theſe olde folkes thinke their Olde Age muſt carrie it away, as if they had wonne as cleere a Victorie from vs, as can be; alas! Ile giue them leaue to vſe their Dead Precepts, but if they once come to liuely Examples, Ile vndertake my Selfe to conuince their beſt Experience. Poeta's loue indeed of late is much alienated from me, but as long I loue him, Ile ſpeake in his defence; did you ſee how Polites did onely ſpeake an Accuſation againſt him? and Ethicus Abuſe his froward Age; and Oeconoma Chafe out her weake coniecture? and then, (when they had rather ſhewed the Weakneſſe of their Age; then the Strength of their Reaſon,) flung away, as if their Obiections could not be Anſwered, becauſe they would not Heare an Anſwere. I would enquire of Polites (if my Anceſtors haue not miſ-inform'd mee in Antiquitie) whether in the Time of Herodotus, and after that, of Zenophon (and ſince of many others) there has not bin a like coniunction to Poeta's and Hiſtoria's; and whether your chiefeſt Common-wealths-men, either of Former times as Plato; or of Later, as the great Solon of the Ʋtopian Common-wealth, haue not made a Poeticall inuention their chiefeſt glorie? but there is no diſcourſing with Age; eſpecially, when it is poſſſſed with a peruerſe preiudice. And did you marke with what a Strength of Heate, his Cold Feebleneſſe ſet vpon me? and I was Miſtris Tongue; and I was Nimble-tongu'd, and I had Foure tongues. But if the Eie of Age bee not ſo Dimme, but that it may Reflect vpon it ſelfe: if the Eare of Age be not ſo Peruerſe, but that it may Admit a free Attention; if the Reaſon of Age, will but yeeld to Reaſon; then ſhall his Eie, his Eare, his Reaſon, bring in their ſeuerall informations againſt his Age. If wee ſhould inquire with whom does reſide the moſt refined Expolition of Language; would it bee anſwered with Olde-folkes? if we ſhould inquire with whom does abide the moſt nimble vigour of pureſt Apprehenſion; would it be anſwer'd with Old-folkes? if we ſhould inquire who are moſt tryed for Quicke Diſpatch of weightie Affaires, would it be anſwer'd your Old-folkes? whoſe Age brings Care, Care Weakneſſe, Weaknes Frowardnes, Frowardneſſe Diſtraction, Diſtraction Childiſhneſſe: and thus running Round in the Circle of Time, growing Giddie, they fall downe vpon all Foure againe, like Children: Children I may call them for their Impotencie, not Innocencie: for their Peruerſeneſſe, not Hopefulneſſe; for their Impatience, not Tenderneſſe; for then would they afford a more Tender cenſure, of our more Tender loues: but let's bee gone, and though they Chide, yet will wee Loue; and I will ſooner confeſſe my Tongue to want Eloquence, then my Loue of Logicus to want Reaſon.